Curse

Risus · Nov 25, 2007, 09:27 PM // 21:27

Is this smart? I mean, Horns of the Ox is early in your chain. Fail to KD them, and you are either dead if you keep attacking, or waste time and have to run back, at the rist of dying.
What is a better KD?
Iron Palm will not do, since it is already a Lead Attack.

Bankai · Nov 25, 2007, 10:08 PM // 22:08

If you fail to KD, you probably won't kill anyway.

ensoriki · Dec 13, 2007, 02:39 AM // 02:39

Iron Palm is a bad choice not because its a lead.

its freaking 20 second recharge and 10 energy.

Rampager · Dec 13, 2007, 06:16 AM // 06:16

get a cripple and try trampling ox?

Byron · Dec 13, 2007, 05:48 PM // 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Risus

What is a better KD?

Bull's strike. Go roll a waru and kill something.

Randvek · Dec 18, 2007, 12:26 AM // 00:26

Horns of the Ox -> Falling is excellent, but it requires that you pick your target and timing carefully, two things I find many assassins are not good at doing.

Thomas.knbk · Dec 18, 2007, 10:06 PM // 22:06

Byron doesn't lie. warz r gud.

Dodo The Extinct · Dec 18, 2007, 11:45 PM // 23:45

It is hard to mess up Horns Of The Ox.

moriz · Dec 19, 2007, 01:29 AM // 01:29

horns-->falling spider was the only skill that allowed pre NF assassins to pull off two dual attacks in a 4 skill combo. the key here is "damage compression", which allowed oldskool assassins to roll out the powerful duals without having to go through the lead-offhand-dual route. oh, and the KD is quite good too.

tehshadowninjar · Dec 19, 2007, 04:10 AM // 04:10

What's with certain posts being deleted? >.> And I made a different build with my sin now... I actually have 1-3 builds. Anyone mind telling me how do I put my skill bar on here like other people do to show what they have in their skill bar?

ensoriki · Dec 19, 2007, 01:12 PM // 13:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by moriz

horns-->falling spider was the only skill that allowed pre NF assassins to pull off two dual attacks in a 4 skill combo. the key here is "damage compression", which allowed oldskool assassins to roll out the powerful duals without having to go through the lead-offhand-dual route. oh, and the KD is quite good too.

That is actually incorrect.
Black Lotus
Golden Phoenix Strike
Falling Spider
Palm Strike.
Moebius Strike

As you can see, falling spider was not the only option

TheOneMephisto · Dec 19, 2007, 01:15 PM // 13:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by ensoriki

That is actually incorrect.
Black Lotus
Golden Phoenix Strike
Falling Spider
Palm Strike.
Moebius Strike

As you can see, falling spider was not the only option

Right. Falling spider was the only VIABLE option.

moko · Dec 19, 2007, 01:17 PM // 13:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by ensoriki

That is actually incorrect.
Black Lotus
Golden Phoenix Strike
Falling Spider
Palm Strike.
Moebius Strike

As you can see, falling spider was not the only option

however, BLS was buffed by the NF update, and so was GPS, so both of them were fairly crap at doing so at these times. Palm strike still is crap, and Moebius, well, nobody used BLS at that point cause it was crap, so Moebius was using leads.

of course there were other options, but what he meant to say was that there weren't any viable ones.

wuzzman · Dec 19, 2007, 01:34 PM // 13:34

yes I like to see a gvg or HA assassin pull out moebius or golden phoenix strike, I like my one fame.

Tyla · Dec 19, 2007, 01:53 PM // 13:53

if its dependant on horns of the ox?
pick a lonely target, gogo KD for cheap

either way, i agree with what byron says.
bulls strike <3

but i see more sin noobs continuing with their combo....while under the effects of blind/being constantly blocked
what d'ya know? people cant even play sin in ab

Selket · Dec 26, 2007, 03:44 PM // 15:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by wuzzman

yes I like to see a gvg or HA assassin pull out moebius or golden phoenix strike, I like my one fame.

3 mobeius sin tripple smite back when exhausting worked off off-hands

lacasner · Dec 26, 2007, 04:03 PM // 16:03

To OP:

iron palm won't suffice because of its "long" casting time and minimal damage. And also, HoTO is pitiful damage wise so any sin who uses it in a SP type of bar /fails